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Originally posted by James Hunt
Hope this link works, it's a picture of the 1967 8th grade class at OLPH http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o433/cwajga/OLPHthGradeClass1967.jpg

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Originally posted by James Hunt
Hope this link works, it's a picture of the 1967 8th grade class at OLPH http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o433/cwajga/OLPHthGradeClass1967.jpg

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Originally posted by Jim Plummer
What happened to Father Reining? I notice he was not in the photo. When I was at OLPH he was a terror for misbehaving kids. Who was teaching 8th grade by this time?

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Originally posted by James Hunt
Hope this link works, it's a picture of the 1967 8th grade class at OLPH http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o433/cwajga/OLPHthGradeClass1967.jpg

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Originally posted by HassoBenSoba

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Originally posted by Jim Plummer
What happened to Father Reining? I notice he was not in the photo. When I was at OLPH he was a terror for misbehaving kids. Who was teaching 8th grade by this time?

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Originally posted by James Hunt
Hope this link works, it's a picture of the 1967 8th grade class at OLPH http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o433/cwajga/OLPHthGradeClass1967.jpg

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Jim--- Father Reinig was long gone by 1966-67; I think he left around '61. Check out the Sheptalk thread "50 Years Ago Today" to see a great OLPH Communion pic from May of 1959, with Msgnr Reinig in the front row. I clearly remember a bright sunny afternoon---I think it was in fall of '58---when the entire student body of OLPH was told to assemble out on the playground; we had no idea why. Soon, everybody began cheering, and we found out that Father Reinig had been elevated (promoted?) to the title of Monsignor. I remember a number of other priests at OLPH; in 1957-59 Father Palone and Father Heeg (who is still around the area). When Palone left, he was replaced by a young priest, Father Dennis Blaney (who is also still around and runs a charitable group called the Share Foundation in central Indiana). In '62 or '63, Father Minich arrived...a very interesting guy. Was rather soft-spoken, but I clearly remember one Sunday near the end of Mass---he was doing the final reading ("the Last Gospel") which used to be done up at the left side of the altar with his back to the congregation. As usual, a number of people would get up and leave --"behind his back" as it were---in order to be the first ones out to the parking lot. So Father Minich interrupts his final prayer and WHIPS AROUND to the crowd and CHEWS THE HELL out of the folks who were sneaking out----"Don't you DARE leave while I am still praying, etc..."; shocked them right back into the pews. Father Sipos was the pastor for most of the '60's--- he's in the 1966 photo, as is Father Evers, a very gentle and genuinely nice guy.

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Originally posted by HassoBenSoba

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Originally posted by Jim Plummer
What happened to Father Reining? I notice he was not in the photo. When I was at OLPH he was a terror for misbehaving kids. Who was teaching 8th grade by this time?

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Originally posted by James Hunt
Hope this link works, it's a picture of the 1967 8th grade class at OLPH http://i342.photobucket.com/albums/o433/cwajga/OLPHthGradeClass1967.jpg

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Jim--- Father Reinig was long gone by 1966-67; I think he left around '61. Check out the Sheptalk thread "50 Years Ago Today" to see a great OLPH Communion pic from May of 1959, with Msgnr Reinig in the front row. I clearly remember a bright sunny afternoon---I think it was in fall of '58---when the entire student body of OLPH was told to assemble out on the playground; we had no idea why. Soon, everybody began cheering, and we found out that Father Reinig had been elevated (promoted?) to the title of Monsignor. I remember a number of other priests at OLPH; in 1957-59 Father Palone and Father Heeg (who is still around the area). When Palone left, he was replaced by a young priest, Father Dennis Blaney (who is also still around and runs a charitable group called the Share Foundation in central Indiana). In '62 or '63, Father Minich arrived...a very interesting guy. Was rather soft-spoken, but I clearly remember one Sunday near the end of Mass---he was doing the final reading ("the Last Gospel") which used to be done up at the left side of the altar with his back to the congregation. As usual, a number of people would get up and leave --"behind his back" as it were---in order to be the first ones out to the parking lot. So Father Minich interrupts his final prayer and WHIPS AROUND to the crowd and CHEWS THE HELL out of the folks who were sneaking out----"Don't you DARE leave while I am still praying, etc..."; shocked them right back into the pews. Father Sipos was the pastor for most of the '60's--- he's in the 1966 photo, as is Father Evers, a very gentle and genuinely nice guy.

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Originally posted by Jim Plummer
Anybody notice the sign on the wall above Father Dominic Pallone's head. I just remembered that at the time OLPH would accept the kids that were kicked out of the public schools. Anybody remember 'Trigger' Mooney? He used to openly brag about how many seats he had ripped up at the Ace theater over the weekend.

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Originally posted by Jim Plummer
Anybody notice the sign on the wall above Father Dominic Pallone's head. I just remembered that at the time OLPH would accept the kids that were kicked out of the public schools. Anybody remember 'Trigger' Mooney? He used to openly brag about how many seats he had ripped up at the Ace theater over the weekend.

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JIM and Seejay, I'm getting all confused about the chronology here. Where's the old 1943 pic of Father Reinig from...what school? Also, the picture of Father Palone--- was it taken at OLPH? If so, it wasn't in the old cafeteria, which was in the basement of the church annex; do you know when the photo was taken? My only definite memory of Father Palone at OLPH was during my 1st grade year (1957-58); after that, it was Fathers Reinig, Heeg and Blaney---they were the ones who officiated at my First Communion in May of '59. So I think Father Palone had left by then. Re: this Trigger Mooney guy---sounds like somebody my brother Mike and I would have enjoyed, since we essentially did the same thing (BB gun up and down Kennedy Ave) in the fall of '64. Hate to admit it to all of you...but we did some pretty STUPID things back then---real juvie delinquents. Of course, we had our sensitive sides, too.... Trigger Mooney was not the kind of character you "enjoyed". You would always hear something amusing about him (something someone else would suffer for in some way), but he was not the kind of company you would keep--not even for only a few moments Just for the heck of it (and so I can beat my chest a little), this is the original Reining photo [IMG]http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u250/seejay2_photos/FatherR-Copy.jpg[/IMG].....Cj

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Originally posted by James Hunt
How the heck do all of you inset a photo in a message? I had to post a photo on a website and then post a link. Jim

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Originally posted by HassoBenSoba
Seejay and Jim, Nice restoration on the old Reinig pic! And now I realize where it was taken---in front of the old Church, which was on Arizona Ave next door--to the left of the current corner rectory. This was the old building which we referred to as the "Annex" during my time at OLPH. Our cafeteria was in the basement of this building. I realize that my brother Mike and I were in the minority on this, but we LOVED the hot lunches that they served--some of the best stuff we ever ate. You really ate the chop suey and the greasy hamburger glop they put over mashed potatoes??? When I was little , I cried until the nuns let me leave. When I was older, my milk carton made a loud noise when it hit the garbage can. One positive note - to this day I eat fishsticks on rye bread with tarter sauce because it was my favorite at the cafeteria. Thanks for confirming that the Fr. Palone pic was taken at St Catherine's.... we never were forbidden from talking during lunch at OLPH, as the sign on the wall says. Jeezzz...they must have been really strict at Catherine's! Also, Fr. Palone looks older in the pic than I remember him in the late '50's. Jim--- Check the thread "How to Post Pictures" on main page #3 on this site. I scan my pics into my pictures file, then post them on Photobucket, which provides you with a little "window/chart" of 4 URL formats for each picture you post. I copy and paste the bottom code ("IMG Code") and paste it into the message while writing it. I think you can also use the 2nd code and establish a link in your message, which will take you to the posted picture.

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I only remember that Trigger died some time ago, but I couldn't tell you from what. Is 'stupidity' fatal?.....Cj

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Originally posted by HassoBenSoba
In the post above from Nitti there's a few lines in small print about the OLPH cafeteria food. My response: Absolutely---I ate everything they served: the sloppy joes, hamburgers, beef, chop suey (my first encounter), cheese sandwiches, fish sticks and ESPECIALLY that ground beef in greasy gravy over mashed potatoes, served with a side of canned corn---my late brother Mike and I couldn't get enough of it; in fact, Mike still raved about it all these years later. For my first three years at OLPH, I took a bagged lunch every day---hated it, but Mike and I weren't interested in trying the hot lunch. However,---and I remember it like it was yesterday---on Halloween day, 1960 (a Monday), our mother was running late and couldn't make us a lunch, so she gave me 30 cents and told me to buy a hot one. I was a bit intimidated by the whole process, but, having sampled one of their excellent sloppy joes with cheese, potato chips and dill pickles, I continued to BUY my lunch every single day 'til the day I graduated five years later. I'd run to the nearest place that served that food if I could find it today.

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Originally posted by HassoBenSoba
OLPH was still charging a mere 30 cents for their lunches when I graduated in 1965. One of the best deals of all time, in my opinion.

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Here's my take on the OLPH uniform thing: in my first-grade picture(1957-58) I wore a tie, plus a shirt and sweater vest that were both light blue....which I recall was our school uniform at the time. However, from 2nd grade all the way through 7th (fall of '58 through spring '64) we didn't wear 'em. Then, in late summer of '64, OLPH reinstated the uniforms, and my parents took us to the glitzy, elegant, up-scale "Mademoiselle Shoppe" (in downtown Indiana Harbor) to stock up on our new regulation-issue school clothes. As I recall, the 1st through 4th graders wore a "junior" version...with the boys wearing those funky "X-shaped" ties that snapped across the front, while us older dudes wore long ties (I tied a Windsor knot in mine once at the beginning of the year, then slipped it on-and-off over my head all the way into Sophomore year at Noll). JIM--- I'm not sure about the nuns living on the third floor of the school; it only had two floors (plus the basement assembly hall). The nuns lived in the 3-story convent just to the south of the school(though I'm not sure when it was built). But you're right...they were very crafty. --------------------------------------------------- And that little store across the street from OLPH was owned and operated by an Old World Polish couple--Alex and "Granny" Sitnick; what a TRIP! They were always ripping the kids off, just to make a few extra pennies on the candy they sold. I clearly remember one Saturday afternoon in May of '63 when I went in there with my best buddy Charlie Harvey; his mother had given him a whole quarter (25 cents) to spend, so Charlie, in typical fashion, offered me 12 cents of it. We walked into Sitnick's store, and there was old Alex back behind the counter, hacking away at a side of beef with a big tree saw (I guess they did their own butchering there, just like in the old days). [IMG]http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af12/HassoBenSoba/MenCharlie0001.jpg[/IMG] Here's Charlie Harvey and me, still yuckin' it up over the Sitnick incident--summer of '63. Anyway, Granny waits on us two young whippesnappers; I bought my 12 cents of candy first, followed by Charlie, who took his sweet time selecting his 13 cents worth. He put 8 cents on the top of the glass counter, and I watched as the old hag quietly slipped the coins into her white butcher's apron. When Charlie had finally finished picking out his 13 cents' worth, he gave her the remaining nickel that he owed. But the detestable crone said: "You owe me 13 cents." So Charlie and I start ripping into her: "No...he already gave you 8 cents, and you took it..." etc. But the pathetic harpy argued back, and all hell broke loose, until Charlie abruptly turned and walked out the front door, saying "just Forget it!" Granny then turns to Alex and declares "Ah! Look at him--the little S___T!" I grabbed Charlie's nickel off of the counter, ran after him out the door, and caught up with him (heading south on Arizona towards the park), just as Alex Sitnick stuck his head out of his front door, raised in his clenched fist in anger and shouted "You little snot---I'll Shake Yer' Teeth Out!!!" Epilogue: I'm sure that some of you guys are starting to wonder if I'm for real or not....I can understand if you're now saying to yourself "this guy must be nuts; this crazy crap couldn't have really happened!!" But it did--every word is true. The reason I remember it so clearly is simple: I mentioned in one of these threads that my late brother Mike and I created a whole series of comedy recordings (on tape), in which I played myself and Mike portrayed 30 different characters; we recreated hilarious and/or bizarre incidents that took place during the mid-late '60's (complete with background music and laugh track) and, sure enough, the entire Sitnick incident was one of them! We did our first version of the tape a few years after the actual incident, which was still fresh in my memory...and it has remained emblazoned in my poor, addled brain ever since, word-for-word, as if it happened yesterday. (A certain Sheptalk member named "Nitti" has actually heard some of these tapes...which have survived only in short "highlight" form). Larry r

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I believe Jim was giving you a compliment, Larry, by asking about your being related to a Cleveand Street inhabitant with the intials of J.S. He is saying that your story telling ability reminds him of Jean Shepherd's talent in that area. Tomster

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Here's some OLPH Nun Fun: ("Nitti" should remember these teachers, since we went through all 8 years togther) My 1st grade ('57-58) teacher was Sister Carolyn (a few interesting stories come to mind...) 2nd grade-- Sister Maurita (along with another nun who was sort of our "co-teacher" for the year; both were nice, and thus I had a great year) 3rd grade-- We started out with a lay teacher named Miss Board--- young, blonde, always seemed stressed out and impatient...was NOT able to control the class. Then, after about a month---without warning---she was replaced by Mrs Jackson, a really tough, no-nUnsense type, who came in and whipped our butts into shape; MAN, she was strict! [IMG]http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af12/HassoBenSoba/MrsJackson0001.jpg[/IMG] Mrs. Jackson ('59-60) (there was real fire behind that cheery smile..) 4th grade - Sister Ursula...one of the aging, old-world types. Someone once told me she had escaped Germany during Hitler's regime; that may explain why, not long after Castro's take-over of Cuba, she asked us: "If the communists came into this classroom, lined you all up against the wall, and gave you the choice of renouncing your religion or being shot, which would you choose?" Needless to say, an extremely dour, humorless person (sorry,folks--no pic available). 5th grade -- Mrs. Mesterharm-- a fine teacher who seemed like everybody's favorite aunt, and who was very respectful of us kids who, in turn, behaved very well. It was my favorite and least traumatizing year. [IMG]http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af12/HassoBenSoba/MrsMest0001.jpg[/IMG] Mrs. Mesterharm ('61-62) 6th Grade--the legendary Mrs. Canepari---a truly great lady, an old-school Irishwoman, tough, but the kind of person you could tell loved her students and her work; I didn't come to appreciate her 'til I saw and spoke with her in 1982. 7th grade -- Sister Rosarita---also a pretty tough cookie; she had taught my brother Mike, and I ended up on her very bad side. [IMG]http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af12/HassoBenSoba/SrRosarita0001.jpg[/IMG] (that's good old Mike's artistic handiwork on the class picture, turning "Rosie" into a mafia-style thug, complete with big Bozo shoes and striped socks). 8th grade--- Sister Dolita, who was new that year. Young, treated us decently...only occasionally resorted to tough methods (see pic above on class photo; she was the first one to wear the new, updated, square habit). ---------------------- BUT---Let's not forget: Sister Ambrosia --ancient and inscrutable; taught 5th grade Sister Bathilda - also ancient (we called her "Sister Methusala"), but a rather jolly little roly-poly type; her 2nd-grade classroom was down in the assembly hall on the east side Sister Barbara-- 8th Grade teacher; Mike had her for 8th grade--pretty tough, as I understand (my Mel Blanc video was filmed in her old classroom) Sister Charlita-- taught 4th grade; very strict and often nasty. Sister Claretta--one of the true dementos; taught Mike 6th grade, then was promoted to principal in my 8th-grade year. She couldn't stand my brother, and thus really had it in for me when she took over the joint. Sister Mary Ann--principal from about '61 to '64'; very nice and soft-spoken. I'll never forget her voice coming over the loud-speaker announcing that President Kennedy had been shot in Dallas. AND--in a SPECIAL CATEGORY BY HERSELF----the most BRUTISH, THUGGISH, CRUEL and UN-HINGED of them all -- SISTER ANGELONA, who reigned as Principal during my first 4 years. Now, granted---I support good, solid discipline in schools and homes; we are all aware of the breakdown of our society due to the lack of discipline and respect for our elders---but this woman was OFF THE CHART!! She had no qualms about slapping around and pummeling the smallest and weakest of us, often for the slightest, insignificant offense. She had no business being anywhere near young kids, and really left her mark (literally, sometimes) on us during her reign of terror at OLPH. Also-- the only MALE teacher at OLPH during my 8 years; (don't worry...he was a lay teacher, not a nun) named Mr. Neary--in his 30's, tall, thin, crew-cut w/horn-rimmed glasses. Apparently a good teacher and a civil guy. Larry r

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Originally posted by S C Jones
I have been to Catholic churches since that long-ago incident and the sin of not having your head covered must have gone the way of some other practices, because no one asked me to cover my head. Grand Park Subdivision 1940-1961 Boondocks of Hessville!

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